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Old 22-07-08, 18:04
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Sorry, but sod his human rights.
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Sorry, but sod his human rights.
Janet!!...Janet!!...I am surprised..and disappointed at your comment..I will be reporting this to Trevor Philips..expect to hear from him shortly.
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I think that will impinge on his human rights a bit....

I think you'll agree that as a human, he has no rights
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I think you'll agree that as a human, he has no rights
No he hasntany rights, he gave them up the minute he allowed and advocated what his troops did... Any one who advocates genocide and etnic cleansing is not what I would class as human and the quicker they string him up the better..
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I do not wish to flame or cause more debate, so this is just my opinion.
I think anyone responsible for mass murder has voluntarily given up all claim to "human" rights, by their very actions proving they are not actually human.
I also think it perfectly clear that Serbian politicians (and others) condoned those actions for years, the Government may have just changed but those who were in power before remain, as do all the so called innocent civilians who closed their eyes to it at the time, collective responsibility, it took Germany 20 years and more to deal with it.
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I do not wish to flame or cause more debate, so this is just my opinion.
I think anyone responsible for mass murder has voluntarily given up all claim to "human" rights, by their very actions proving they are not actually human.
I also think it perfectly clear that Serbian politicians (and others) condoned those actions for years, the Government may have just changed but those who were in power before remain, as do all the so called innocent civilians who closed their eyes to it at the time, collective responsibility, it took Germany 20 years and more to deal with it.

I agree with what you say...but irrespective of what crimes against humanity he has committed.. we still have to afford him his rights..by doing so the world remains lawful and civilised... and does not decend to this type of person/s level and their behaviour.
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Killing the figurehead seldom discourages the supporters. Look at Iraq for an example. Look at the neo-nazi groups throughout Europe.

Put him in jail for life, and encourage a repentant confession/book for the maximum effect IMO. Revenge and justice seldom coincide.
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Quite right, and early justice systems were set up precisely to avoid blood vengeance. In the case of Karadzic, they've picked up plenty of his minions, and it's only due to recent EU pressure on Serbia that he's now been arrested, in my opinion. Hopefully this means that Mladic will be delivered up soon too.

I don't think the International Court has capital rights, do they? I think their maximum penalty is life imprisonment ... which is all I would want anyway, despite all.
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I also think it perfectly clear that Serbian politicians (and others) condoned those actions for years, the Government may have just changed but those who were in power before remain, as do all the so called innocent civilians who closed their eyes to it at the time, collective responsibility, it took Germany 20 years and more to deal with it.
This is the third time I have written this throughout this thread, previously I have read it and then chose to not post it however . . .

Those 'so called innocent civilians' had seen their forefathers and their parents go through the same 'ethnic cleansing' and genocide previously.

I do not condone what went on in Serbia but as the Son-in-Law of a Serbian, who had to leave his village at the age of 13 with his elder brother and walk all the way to Italy because the men and children of his village who were of fighting age were being shot and killed, I can see why eyes were perhaps closed.

4 years ago, he saw his younger brother for the first time in 60 years, his brother came to see him in the UK. It was only after that visit that he felt it was safe enough and he returned 'home' for the first time in over 60 years.

I think Karadzic should rot in jail and so should Mladic but please don't resent all Serbs, they themselves have been through the mill.
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This will be the last post i will make on this thread as i think there is a danger that freedom of speech is now not being respected, i made perfectly clear i was stating a personal opinion and i had no wish to flame. Furthermore i would far rather talk about Tenerife which is what the forum is for i understand.
Regarding the last post i would merely say that 2 wrongs do not make a right and justifying genocide on the basis of past wrongs will lead to a never ending cycle of hate, as i think a previous poster pointed out.
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