Points of Grammar Thread

[CornflakeGirl]

according to my profs at uni, this would be a subjunctive... maybe they say so because translated from spanish it is? (¡que viva la Reína!)

[Janet©]

volver a ... , in the sense of returning to a theme (in this case "the same old song"), takes the indicative, so the only thing the subjunctive can be doing is making the quince dias more vague, so meaning something like "returned to the same old story that began maybe a fortnight ago". An alternative is "returned to the same old story that might have begun a fortnight ago".

It's very subtle, anyway.

[Janet©]

Originally Posted by Perikles

Your example is an optative, not a subjunctive, but at least it is not an indicative.

Ahem, it's a jussive subjunctive .....

Originally Posted by CornflakeGirl

according to my profs at uni, this would be a subjunctive...

and they would be quite right

[Periklês]

Originally Posted by Janet

Ahem, it's a jussive subjunctive .....

and they would be quite right

Yes, but only because the language is degenerate enough not to have a distinct optative form, so you have to make do with a subjunctive one...

[Periklês]

Originally Posted by Sir Old Golfer

Its the underneath of a junction isnt it ?

Funny isn't it? No matter how serious a thread starts out, there is always dribble. Wasn't there a thread complaining about this?

[Sabrinova]

Originally Posted by Perikles

Funny isn't it? No matter how serious a thread starts out, there is always dribble. Wasn't there a thread complaining about this?

Ermmm... shouldn't that word be drivel?

[Sir Old Golfer]

Originally Posted by Sabrinova

Ermmm... shouldn't that word be drivel?

maybe he was using the subjunctive

[Janet©]

Originally Posted by Perikles

Yes, but only because the language is degenerate enough not to have a distinct optative form, so you have to make do with a subjunctive one...

Give up now ...

[CornflakeGirl]

i hope this is not going to start a domestic
having said that, it'd be great if we kept this thread alive with other examples/questions/queries/confusions about the subjunctive in spanish - it's the tense que me cuesta más que otros puntos de la gramática castellana , so it might be very helpful...

[HugoLidia]

We'll just be happy to say a few words in Spanish!!!