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Old 19-03-08, 14:18
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Default My Survival Guide To Moving to And Living In Tenerife!

My survival guide has not been written to “dampen your dreams” or to deter you from doing what so many of us have done before, coming to live the dream. It has been written to make you aware of some of the problems you may face when you do make the move. After all, pre warned is pre armed!

You have to be careful moving here. Take off your rose tinted glasses NOW!!

Should you make it here, you will have a truly great life, be the envy of nearly all of those in the UK, those who just “wish and dream” but never TRY!

I have seen so many people come and go. I have known people that have come with large amounts of money from the sale of their uk properties and return to England with nothing. The saying "if you want to leave Tenerife with a small fortune, come with a larger one" springs to mind. I have seen people come and return because they can’t find work. I have seen people come due to a "firm" job offer only to find the job does not exist. I also know people that are just “surviving” here because they only get work "here and there", "in bits and bats". I have seen people come and go because they fall into, what I call, The Tenerife Trap. By this I mean the cheap beer and the sunshine. They find themselves drinking all day and have the attitude “I'll find a job tomorrow”. Sometimes tomorrow never comes.

However, I also know a lot of people who have made a good life for themselves and their families here.

My guide to Tenerife survival and building a great new life is this, based on my experiences, cockups and the good decisions I made. I have also drawn experiences from watching others.

In no particular order, here are my survival tips.

#. Join, use and take advantage of this forum. When I arrived on the Island I didn’t know about the forum, I wish I did. No matter what questions you want to ask, however trivial you may feel they are, then ask them. The forum members will do all they can to answer your questions and give all the help and advice they can.

#. Enroll at a Spanish class. Speaking the language will open up more opportunities for you.

#. If you are coming with your partner, you must have a rock solid relationship in order to get through the transitional period of relocating to a new country and the stress the Island can put upon you. I have seen a few couples arrive, and within a few months etc their relationships start to crumble. They say that the most stressful things in life are divorce and moving house. I have never been divorced but have moved house numerous times and believe me, the stress that the Island can put on you is so much greater. If you are coming here because you are having relationship problems in the UK and you feel that the move will bring you closer together, DON’T DO IT. It won’t work.

#. Be prepared to be homesick. This will only hit you after your “honeymoon” period is over and you face your first problems or frustrations. I have seen so many people who “loose their way” when trying to deal with the way the Island works, getting legal etc. They feel “lost” and “alone”. When this happens, to many, The UK can seem the better place. Work through it, think of what you have here and fight for it!. I question anyone I have spoken to who has said “I have never missed the UK since I have been here”. To be honest, I think that every one, in the first few months at least, does feel a tad homesick. I know I did and consider myself to be a very strong character.

#. Discipline yourself. Get here and start “doing” straight away. Don’t take a “3 month break” etc. Its to easy for the 3 month break to turn into a 4,5,6 month break. Take a break when you have established yourself here.

# Don't burn your bridges with the UK. By this I mean, if you own a property in the UK don't at first sell it. Rent it, even if, without the sale, it means you cant buy a property here. The rent will pay your mortgage and should give you a little income on top. Then should you find after however long, that you feel you have made a mistake moving here, or your family cant settle etc, you can always move back without the hassle of having to sell your property here. Even if you sell up in the UK and put the money away until you have made up your mind about living and buying here, you will, I assume, only be bringing the equity your property has made. Lets say, for arguments sake you bring 100k, the equity. Then you find you don't like it here and you move back. Whats 100k going to get you in the UK? You may have a healthy lump sum as a deposit but will you get a mortgage to top it up? You will first have to find jobs and hold them for a few months before, I assume, a mortgage lender will lend.

#. However, If you do come here with a large sum of money with which you intend to buy property, then put it away somewhere safe, somewhere you will not pick at it. Rent a property at first to make sure you like the new lifestyle etc. Give yourself plenty of time to decide about buying here.

#. Get legal as soon as you can. NIE, social etc. This has to be your first priority. You can not legally work without it or get your kids in school etc.

#. Get medical insurance ASAP. It will take a while to get into the social system and should you need medical attention and you are not covered either privately or by the state, you will find that the hospitals may not treat you.

#. Only turn to “creditable” people for advice on legal matters etc (NIE social, tax, car ITV’s etc). I used to ask 10 people the same question and get 10 different answers. I have met on the island so many people that are full of crap; claim they know everything but in fact know nothing. I then employed a fiscal representative to take care of everything. It was such a relief and I knew I was covered properly from every angle.

#. Be who you are and be proud of what you have got. Don’t bull @@@@ people. Like I said the island is full of them. People will be so much more willing to help you if you are genuine. I am always happy to help genuine folk, haven’t got any time for bull @@@@ers though.

#. Get out and about as much as you can. Generate contacts, mingle with folk but beware of everyone! Trust no one. There are many people who will be glad to rip you off. I thought I was shrewd and switched on but I got taken for 500 euros off a so called friend within the first 3 months. It took me 3 years to get it back.

#. Take any work you can at first while you are finding your feet. There IS work out there. Don’t cherry pick work as it will pass you by. Once you are earning, then start to look for your dream job. Remember, when you are working you will be building contacts which may come in useful at a later date.

#. Be prepared to earn a pittance here compared with your UK wages. Employers here pay poor money because, well, they can! and the demand for jobs is so high. Sad I know but its a fact. A recent post on this forum suggests that 1000 to 1250 euros per month is a VERY GOOD Tenerife wage. You will earn approximately 5 euros an hour doing bar work.

#. Fight fight fight for your desire to live here. If times are hard, if people knock you back, let you down and generally mess on you from a great height, then fight back (not literally). Look in the mirror every morning and say “no one is going to get me down today. I am a fighter and I will survive”. You may find that the island at first, draws resources out of you that you didn’t know you had. One can either lie down give up and die, or fight and survive.

#. When you have settled and are enjoying “another day in paradise” purchase a nice bottle of Champagne, walk, with your partner etc to the shore one night as the sun sets, crack the bottle open, look across the sea and scream “we've ****** done it”, let your emotions pour out. Then go home and enjoy the rest of your days on this stunning Island and take advantage of what Tenerife can offer that the UK cant.

The very very best of luck to you
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Old 19-03-08, 15:27
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Thank you for that.. I have printed this off so that I can go over it again and again

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Thanks Treble.
I must admit we have never been homesick since we moved over here and have no regrets. It's not easy at all by any means and all I can tell people who are thinking about moving over is to think carefully before they move, it's not something to just jump into and it's not easy when you get here. It took us months and months of preperation before we moved over, but we would never move back and know where we feel better off
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Thank you for this advice Treble.
We have been thinking of moving over for many years and have just decided to do so therefore your advice has been posted just at the right time for us.
We already have NIE numbers as we purchased a place in 2006 but all the other bits we will pay good heed to.
Hope you and Molly have been Ok today.
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If only the thousands had of had the chance to read that
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Good advice Treble, so honest and so true!
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Thank you for this advice, a true voice of experience i feel. I have been living here now for a year i havent met any english peolpe but this website is a great help to me. who would you reccomend for some sound advice? I work for a UK company doing sales etc on the phone from here but need to find out how i am fixed for tax and NI as the company i work for said that i dont need to pay this in the UK. many thanks.
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Thank you for this advice, a true voice of experience i feel. I have been living here now for a year i havent met any english peolpe but this website is a great help to me. who would you reccomend for some sound advice? I work for a UK company doing sales etc on the phone from here but need to find out how i am fixed for tax and NI as the company i work for said that i dont need to pay this in the UK. many thanks.
If you're living and working here, then you should be submitting annual accounts and paying social security contributions here. Most self-employed foreigners here employ a gestor ... do you have one? I can recommend a few, and I'm sure others could too, but if you already have a gestor looking after your tax and social security here, then you're fine.
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Like Janet said, you need to be set up as self employed. I had to register as self employed so I could pull my money from my English business and get my family into the social system in Tenerife.

You do need to find a gestor, a good one.

A word of advice for you is......................When a gestor sets you up as self employed, ask them to categorize you as a "commission agent". I was put in this category. That way you only have to submit yearly accounts and not quarterly, or monthly. It saves you money on gestor fee´s.
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Yes, I'm a "commissioner" too
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